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Ibrahim Al-Syed
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December 20, 2022
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CDF: User Experience Issues

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  • December 20, 2022
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We need the ability for CDF to function and support Domain Experts in a way that they can pull and visualize data without having to understand how data is connected or transformed in CDF. The UI needs to be seamless such as infield, it is intuitive there is nothing to be learnt or understood in that app. We need to seggregate Data Engineer view from Domain Expert.  Here are the list of issues:

As a domain SME or expert, I do not not need to know these things: Internal, External, Created time, updated time. I expect it to be current, latest and i want to view information. 

 

When i click Data Set, I see this mess. Is there not a better way to organize data sets that does not require naming convention and how things are getting organized. 

 

We should not need to see or understand all of the above. I see many different data sets from Bentley, many different PI etc. Is there a better way to organize and view this?

 

Why do I need to see Cognite Markups, annotations and also scans in events…can we not hide this from Domain SME?  see below….list of scans in events - its irrelevant for a domain expert to see this as an event. This is not really event, its just us uploading into CDF and its registered as an event. We need to seggregate such things and not making it visible. Data Engineering Events vs Real Plant Transaction in the faci

 

I am struggling with 3D modelling. see below its a mess. How do i navigate or get a landing page of the facility with 3D? or organize the files? or visualzie it similar to Remote or other apps. Why do i see zip files?

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Ibrahim Al-Syed
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April 4, 2023

More issues:

Please see how text is overlapping  with the next column in two occasions

 

Lars Moastuen
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April 4, 2023

@ibrahim.alsyed: as for the point on improving the 3D model overview page, this is currently in progress and should be part of the June release.

Lars Moastuen (Software Engineer, Atlas AI)
Andreea Oprea
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April 4, 2023

Hi @ibrahim.alsyed,

 

Lars mentioned the timeline for the 3D model overview page, as for Point no 2 will be ready by the end of the month and for point no 1 will need some help from @Philippe Bettler with the timeline.  

 

Thank you,
Andreea.

Ibrahim Al-Syed
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April 4, 2023

@Andreea Pastinaru  what about my last post on overlapping text?

Philippe  Bettler
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April 4, 2023

@Andreea Pastinaru @ibrahim.alsyed , as we roll out FDM objects, there will be more clarity on what the user is looking at, and it will become easier to navigate the data for #1.

The use case is interesting as the UX will need to make it easy to bring different but related objects constraints in parallel e.g. the users wants to see Alarms for a given site. 

Ibrahim Al-Syed
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April 4, 2023

@Andreea Pastinaru if we want to improve data exploration in CDF then it is important to acknowledge that data in CDF must have a domain expert UI. This means that there is no such thing as data sets, data source or any other terminology as meta data etc. 

Andreea Oprea
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April 12, 2023

Hi @ibrahim.alsyed ,

 

Ref to your last post on overlapping text, the team is working on it, should be very soon fixed. 

I totally agree and aligned with your last comment. The terminology will change as we roll out FDM objects, as Philippe mentioned as well. 

Thanks,
Andreea.

Andreea Oprea
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April 18, 2023

@ibrahim.alsyed The issue is fixed and we just released the newest features in Data Explorer. 

 

As for terminology and more improvements with focus on the Domain Expert UI,  will come by June. 

Sofie Svartdal Berge
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September 22, 2023

Hi! We wanted to come with a short update. We are currently working on a data exploration experience with the business/Subject matter expert user in focus, where our goal is to abstract away the “IT language”. We will be needing several iterations to nail this, and engaging in user testing across the customer base. An update on the status will be shared in October release. 

Sofie Svartdal Berge
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March 15, 2024

Hi there!
Providing an update on this request, as we have addressed or are in the process of addressing the points raised.

We are significantly simplifying the exploration experience with Industrial Data Search that focus on the Industrial/SME user and their needs.

What you can expect in Industrial Data Search; 

  • Filters are not focused on the more “Data Engineer” user group, but rather the SME. We are not exposing all potential filters (Data Sets, IDs etc), and will also in the next couple of releases support customization within in each project to define what filters to show. 
  • Event types over the next releases we will give the option of pre-filtering data for all users of a project, as part of supporting more customization. One such example, can be to define some filtering rules for the type of Evens you deem valuable for the Industrial/SME users to see, and have those filters auto-applied. 
  • Location/Site/Facility is possible to configure, and acts as an efficient filter on the data a user has access to. For an Industrial/SME end user, this simplifies the data exploration, as they start their exploration on only the data belonging to the facility they care about. 
  • Finding the right 3D model has been challenging. In Industrial Data Search, one can configure 3D scenes that combine 3D models (CAD, pointcloud, 360 images) and ties them to the correct facility. The user does not have to select which 3D model to open, this is configured for them.
    • Directly from the Landing page in Fusion.cognite.com, the user can click on “Browse 3D” and be taken straight into the digital twin. 
Browse 3D takes the user directly to their 3D view of the digital twin

Best, 

Sofie Berge, Product Manager